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	<title>Comments on: Guest Column: State Sen. Syverson’s joke is on us</title>
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		<title>By: Brad Halcomb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Halcomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I&#039;d like to point out that Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution authorizes the government to collect taxes from the citizens and the 16th Amendment authorizes the government to collect taxes on your income.

Now, with that said, your Tea Party ideals that you appear to be sticking to (just like many freshmen GOP in Congress) is actually nothing new. You see the GOP had this same idea of cut spending and collect no new taxes in the 30&#039;s and it worsened the Great Depression, Hoover and the Republicans in control at the time were by modern definition, Tea Party Republicans. In fact the homeless built makeshift town, much like you would see in third and fourth world countries, they called them Hoovervilles in honor of Hoover&#039;s ultra conservative stance of &quot;keep walking backwards, everything will fix itself in reverse.&quot;  You see, no progress was made at fixing economy until Roosevelt was elected, and do you know what he did? He spent money, money that built many of the highways everyone enjoy today. Money that was used to rebuild America from the ground up, money for the unemployed to do the work he tasked. Many Republicans will say that did nothing to help, it was World War 2 that pulled us out of the Depression, to which I would say, you&#039;re half wrong, it was both. Weapons of war don&#039;t just magically appear, you need money to build them, move them, put them in soldiers hands, and pay the soldiers to use them. The moral here, you must spend money, to make money. Companies must spend money to secure a location, to advertise, to buy inventory, and materials before they can make money.

Seriously, just because someone critical of a conservative should not be ground to call them a left-wing liberal lunatic. Quite honestly, this idea that anyone just slightly left of the super far-right warrants an automatic left-wing, liberal, Nazi, Communist , Socialist, lunatic nametag, is ridiculous. Now I know you didn&#039;t use most of those terms, but everyone with your viewpoint uses them daily. Which is even more ridiculous, since the Nazis were a very far-right movement. 

You see, I don&#039;t like the way conservatives sit there and complain about every liberal, but the Republicans are Holy, and when a repub gets in trouble, Fox changes that R to a D. To your view, I say something bad about a Dem, I&#039;m voicing my opinion, but if I say something bad about a repub, I&#039;m a far-left lunatic that needs to be shot in the head. Now that is Nazi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I&#8217;d like to point out that Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution authorizes the government to collect taxes from the citizens and the 16th Amendment authorizes the government to collect taxes on your income.</p>
<p>Now, with that said, your Tea Party ideals that you appear to be sticking to (just like many freshmen GOP in Congress) is actually nothing new. You see the GOP had this same idea of cut spending and collect no new taxes in the 30&#8217;s and it worsened the Great Depression, Hoover and the Republicans in control at the time were by modern definition, Tea Party Republicans. In fact the homeless built makeshift town, much like you would see in third and fourth world countries, they called them Hoovervilles in honor of Hoover&#8217;s ultra conservative stance of &#8220;keep walking backwards, everything will fix itself in reverse.&#8221;  You see, no progress was made at fixing economy until Roosevelt was elected, and do you know what he did? He spent money, money that built many of the highways everyone enjoy today. Money that was used to rebuild America from the ground up, money for the unemployed to do the work he tasked. Many Republicans will say that did nothing to help, it was World War 2 that pulled us out of the Depression, to which I would say, you&#8217;re half wrong, it was both. Weapons of war don&#8217;t just magically appear, you need money to build them, move them, put them in soldiers hands, and pay the soldiers to use them. The moral here, you must spend money, to make money. Companies must spend money to secure a location, to advertise, to buy inventory, and materials before they can make money.</p>
<p>Seriously, just because someone critical of a conservative should not be ground to call them a left-wing liberal lunatic. Quite honestly, this idea that anyone just slightly left of the super far-right warrants an automatic left-wing, liberal, Nazi, Communist , Socialist, lunatic nametag, is ridiculous. Now I know you didn&#8217;t use most of those terms, but everyone with your viewpoint uses them daily. Which is even more ridiculous, since the Nazis were a very far-right movement. </p>
<p>You see, I don&#8217;t like the way conservatives sit there and complain about every liberal, but the Republicans are Holy, and when a repub gets in trouble, Fox changes that R to a D. To your view, I say something bad about a Dem, I&#8217;m voicing my opinion, but if I say something bad about a repub, I&#8217;m a far-left lunatic that needs to be shot in the head. Now that is Nazi.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 06:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I am not a far left, in fact, most people who know me see me as a centrist or somewhat conservative. Both comments directed at Dave Syverson are valid political points that have nothing to do with liberal or conservative ideology.  The points made are that we have representatives and senators who do no reflect the moral values that we would want our children to learn.  As for your wallet problem, I suggest you buy a new one from China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I am not a far left, in fact, most people who know me see me as a centrist or somewhat conservative. Both comments directed at Dave Syverson are valid political points that have nothing to do with liberal or conservative ideology.  The points made are that we have representatives and senators who do no reflect the moral values that we would want our children to learn.  As for your wallet problem, I suggest you buy a new one from China.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 16:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, John, perhaps is it because most of us aren&#039;t far-left lunatics like you and Will Rose.

Syverson does need to be replaced...but NOT by some lunatic left-wing &quot;tax-and-spend  fool.  We have far too many Democratic bleeding heart &quot;tax-and-spend&quot; idiots that are willing to tax us out of existence so they can feel good about themseleves.

Here&#039;s a thought, if you want to give all your money to the poor, go ahead...who&#039;s stopping you?  Stay the HELL out of my wallet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, John, perhaps is it because most of us aren&#8217;t far-left lunatics like you and Will Rose.</p>
<p>Syverson does need to be replaced&#8230;but NOT by some lunatic left-wing &#8220;tax-and-spend  fool.  We have far too many Democratic bleeding heart &#8220;tax-and-spend&#8221; idiots that are willing to tax us out of existence so they can feel good about themseleves.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a thought, if you want to give all your money to the poor, go ahead&#8230;who&#8217;s stopping you?  Stay the HELL out of my wallet!</p>
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		<title>By: John M. Stassi</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M. Stassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>State Senator Dave Syverson&#039;s small-minded &quot;joke&quot;, with all of its unseemly overtones, comes as no surprise to me.

He has said even more blatantly not-so-funny things in the past when he was definitely NOT trying to be funny.

What does surprise me is the negative reaction of the local daily which has endorsed him repeatedly despite his previous outrageous comments.

Most notable among these is something he said back in 2000, and that I wrote about during the 2006 campaign, as follows:

DOES SYVERSON FAVOR SLAVE LABOR?

Do those who support the re-election of State Senator Dave Syverson realize what his moral values will allow?

Like our Congressman Don Manzullo, Syverson has a solid pro-business voting record.  Most honest Americans, however, would be disgusted with the kind of “business” that these two men delight in.

Both Syverson and Manzullo have repeatedly acted to protect Red China’s business interests. Time and again they have chosen to ignore Beijing’s many atrocious violations of basic human rights, and supported immoral but profitable business deals with that dictatorial regime.

Syverson believes that the State of Illinois should be allowed to buy goods made by Chinese slave labor.

In June 2000, he spoke out against legislation that would prohibit state agencies from doing so.  In May 2003, he and a tiny minority of Senate Republicans voted against an identical bill which nevertheless passed overwhelmingly and was signed into law.

Syverson admits that his support for the slave labor trade is motivated by greed and rooted in appeasement.

When asked to explain his opposition to the slave labor goods prohibition bill, Syverson issued a warning: “All we need is for China to tell us they won’t buy any more Illinois goods and then we’re all in trouble.” (Rockford Register Star, 3 June 2000)

Is Syverson aware that the inmates of China’s slave labor concentration camps have troubles of their own?  Many of them were sentenced to enslavement because they are pro-democracy activists, labor organizers, or religious believers whose creeds have been criminalized. Besides forced labor, their punishment often includes torture, starvation rations and other health-destroying working and living conditions.

But their suffering clearly does not trouble Dave Syverson nearly as much as the prospect that business profits might be lost in what he called “a war of words with a country that does a great deal of trading with Illinois.”

Syverson dismisses the immorality of slave labor in favor of the profitability of doing business with slave-drivers.

Profit in our time: That’s Syverson’s priority.  Is it also yours?  If not, please cast your vote against State Senator Dave Syverson on Election Day 2006.

UPDATE: 

Sometime after this was published, I was able to question Senator Syverson during a call-in session on a local radio station.  

When I asked him why he had voted against the bill described above, he told me that he thought that it represented an &quot;unfunded mandate&quot; and would not comment further on the topic.

Just for the record, our other local state senator, J. Bradley Burzynski, was also among the 11 Republican state senators to vote against the “State Prohibition of Goods from Forced Labor Act” which was signed into law on 23 July 2003.  

How did we manage to become represented by not one but two fellows who seem to have no scruples when it comes to promoting “business”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>State Senator Dave Syverson&#8217;s small-minded &#8220;joke&#8221;, with all of its unseemly overtones, comes as no surprise to me.</p>
<p>He has said even more blatantly not-so-funny things in the past when he was definitely NOT trying to be funny.</p>
<p>What does surprise me is the negative reaction of the local daily which has endorsed him repeatedly despite his previous outrageous comments.</p>
<p>Most notable among these is something he said back in 2000, and that I wrote about during the 2006 campaign, as follows:</p>
<p>DOES SYVERSON FAVOR SLAVE LABOR?</p>
<p>Do those who support the re-election of State Senator Dave Syverson realize what his moral values will allow?</p>
<p>Like our Congressman Don Manzullo, Syverson has a solid pro-business voting record.  Most honest Americans, however, would be disgusted with the kind of “business” that these two men delight in.</p>
<p>Both Syverson and Manzullo have repeatedly acted to protect Red China’s business interests. Time and again they have chosen to ignore Beijing’s many atrocious violations of basic human rights, and supported immoral but profitable business deals with that dictatorial regime.</p>
<p>Syverson believes that the State of Illinois should be allowed to buy goods made by Chinese slave labor.</p>
<p>In June 2000, he spoke out against legislation that would prohibit state agencies from doing so.  In May 2003, he and a tiny minority of Senate Republicans voted against an identical bill which nevertheless passed overwhelmingly and was signed into law.</p>
<p>Syverson admits that his support for the slave labor trade is motivated by greed and rooted in appeasement.</p>
<p>When asked to explain his opposition to the slave labor goods prohibition bill, Syverson issued a warning: “All we need is for China to tell us they won’t buy any more Illinois goods and then we’re all in trouble.” (Rockford Register Star, 3 June 2000)</p>
<p>Is Syverson aware that the inmates of China’s slave labor concentration camps have troubles of their own?  Many of them were sentenced to enslavement because they are pro-democracy activists, labor organizers, or religious believers whose creeds have been criminalized. Besides forced labor, their punishment often includes torture, starvation rations and other health-destroying working and living conditions.</p>
<p>But their suffering clearly does not trouble Dave Syverson nearly as much as the prospect that business profits might be lost in what he called “a war of words with a country that does a great deal of trading with Illinois.”</p>
<p>Syverson dismisses the immorality of slave labor in favor of the profitability of doing business with slave-drivers.</p>
<p>Profit in our time: That’s Syverson’s priority.  Is it also yours?  If not, please cast your vote against State Senator Dave Syverson on Election Day 2006.</p>
<p>UPDATE: </p>
<p>Sometime after this was published, I was able to question Senator Syverson during a call-in session on a local radio station.  </p>
<p>When I asked him why he had voted against the bill described above, he told me that he thought that it represented an &#8220;unfunded mandate&#8221; and would not comment further on the topic.</p>
<p>Just for the record, our other local state senator, J. Bradley Burzynski, was also among the 11 Republican state senators to vote against the “State Prohibition of Goods from Forced Labor Act” which was signed into law on 23 July 2003.  </p>
<p>How did we manage to become represented by not one but two fellows who seem to have no scruples when it comes to promoting “business”?</p>
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