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		<title>By: John M Stassi</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M Stassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hale and rockfordteaparty,

Have either of you or any of your Tea Party pals ever voted for Congressman Don Manzullo?

If so, you are as much an abortionist as anyone in the Democrat Party.

Our Congressman Manzullo calls himself a pro-life Christian but has never once publicly denounced the Chinese government’s ongoing policies of forced abortion and religious persecution.
 
Millions of Chinese parents have been forced to undergo surgical extermination of their beloved unborn children without a whimper of dissent from Congressman Manzullo.
 
Tens of thousands of Chinese Christians and Falun Gong practitioners have been arrested, tortured, jailed and, in some cases, executed while Rep. Manzullo has repeatedly fraternized with the tyrants who have done so.
 
For many years now, Manzullo has met repeatedly with Red China’s top government officials, promoted their interests in Congress, and ignored their human rights atrocities and assaults upon our security.
 
And on one occasion, Manzullo went so far as to vote in Congress to subsidize their many crimes.
 
On 5 November 1997, only hours after he had voted to condemn China for its policies of compulsory abortion and sterilization, slave labor and religious persecution, Manzullo voted to continue funding subsidized loans to that very same country at a cost to U.S. taxpayers of $400 million/year.
 
Since then China has disguised but continues to cruelly enforce its compulsory abortion policy, while it continues to collect at least $4 billion/year in subsidies from American taxpayers and earn huge profits from the “free trade” low-tariff import policies that Manzullo still supports.

And Manzullo is well aware of this.

Nearly seven years ago, Chen Guangcheng, a prominent Chinese human rights activist who had led the fight against forced abortions under the one-child policy in China, was imprisoned.  

As recently as June of this year, he has been beaten by police for attempting to communicate with the outside world. Some of those who have attempted to visit him have been beaten and robbed by Chinese security forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Guangcheng#Ruanjin 

On December 6, 2011, Reggie Littlejohn, president of Women’s Rights Without Frontiers, a human rights group that closely monitors the one-child policy in China, testified regarding Chen’s case before the Congressional-Executive Commission on China.
http://www.cecc.gov/pages/hearings/general/hearing2/index.php 

Manzullo is a member of that Commission:
http://www.cecc.gov/pages/general/commissioners.php 

And so, although he is clearly fully informed of their human rights atrocities, Congressman Manzullo refrains from denouncing them and continues to promote trade policies that strengthen the abortionist Chinese government.  How can this be?

It can’t be because Manzullo is reluctant to denounce tyrannical foreign leaders.  For example, here is what he said in response to the death of North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Il:   “Kim Jong Il was the epitome of evil, a dictator of the worst kind who ruled his country with an iron fist and dished out constant pain and misery to his people.”
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2011/12/manzullo-kim-jong-il-was-the-epitome-of-evil.html

So how can he denounce a Korean dictator but remain silent and continue his support for “free trade” with an equally evil Chinese dictatorship?  If Manzullo is not a coward, then he must be either a hypocrite or a traitor, right?

So, in keeping with your opposition to abortion, why don’t you Tea Party folks do something useful with yourselves and force our congressman to account for himself?  

Until you do so, anyone of you who supports Manzullo is an abortionist by proxy.

Does that make your Christmas merry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hale and rockfordteaparty,</p>
<p>Have either of you or any of your Tea Party pals ever voted for Congressman Don Manzullo?</p>
<p>If so, you are as much an abortionist as anyone in the Democrat Party.</p>
<p>Our Congressman Manzullo calls himself a pro-life Christian but has never once publicly denounced the Chinese government’s ongoing policies of forced abortion and religious persecution.</p>
<p>Millions of Chinese parents have been forced to undergo surgical extermination of their beloved unborn children without a whimper of dissent from Congressman Manzullo.</p>
<p>Tens of thousands of Chinese Christians and Falun Gong practitioners have been arrested, tortured, jailed and, in some cases, executed while Rep. Manzullo has repeatedly fraternized with the tyrants who have done so.</p>
<p>For many years now, Manzullo has met repeatedly with Red China’s top government officials, promoted their interests in Congress, and ignored their human rights atrocities and assaults upon our security.</p>
<p>And on one occasion, Manzullo went so far as to vote in Congress to subsidize their many crimes.</p>
<p>On 5 November 1997, only hours after he had voted to condemn China for its policies of compulsory abortion and sterilization, slave labor and religious persecution, Manzullo voted to continue funding subsidized loans to that very same country at a cost to U.S. taxpayers of $400 million/year.</p>
<p>Since then China has disguised but continues to cruelly enforce its compulsory abortion policy, while it continues to collect at least $4 billion/year in subsidies from American taxpayers and earn huge profits from the “free trade” low-tariff import policies that Manzullo still supports.</p>
<p>And Manzullo is well aware of this.</p>
<p>Nearly seven years ago, Chen Guangcheng, a prominent Chinese human rights activist who had led the fight against forced abortions under the one-child policy in China, was imprisoned.  </p>
<p>As recently as June of this year, he has been beaten by police for attempting to communicate with the outside world. Some of those who have attempted to visit him have been beaten and robbed by Chinese security forces.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Guangcheng#Ruanjin" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Guangcheng#Ruanjin</a> </p>
<p>On December 6, 2011, Reggie Littlejohn, president of Women’s Rights Without Frontiers, a human rights group that closely monitors the one-child policy in China, testified regarding Chen’s case before the Congressional-Executive Commission on China.<br />
<a href="http://www.cecc.gov/pages/hearings/general/hearing2/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.cecc.gov/pages/hearings/general/hearing2/index.php</a> </p>
<p>Manzullo is a member of that Commission:<br />
<a href="http://www.cecc.gov/pages/general/commissioners.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.cecc.gov/pages/general/commissioners.php</a> </p>
<p>And so, although he is clearly fully informed of their human rights atrocities, Congressman Manzullo refrains from denouncing them and continues to promote trade policies that strengthen the abortionist Chinese government.  How can this be?</p>
<p>It can’t be because Manzullo is reluctant to denounce tyrannical foreign leaders.  For example, here is what he said in response to the death of North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Il:   “Kim Jong Il was the epitome of evil, a dictator of the worst kind who ruled his country with an iron fist and dished out constant pain and misery to his people.”<br />
<a href="http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2011/12/manzullo-kim-jong-il-was-the-epitome-of-evil.html" rel="nofollow">http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2011/12/manzullo-kim-jong-il-was-the-epitome-of-evil.html</a></p>
<p>So how can he denounce a Korean dictator but remain silent and continue his support for “free trade” with an equally evil Chinese dictatorship?  If Manzullo is not a coward, then he must be either a hypocrite or a traitor, right?</p>
<p>So, in keeping with your opposition to abortion, why don’t you Tea Party folks do something useful with yourselves and force our congressman to account for himself?  </p>
<p>Until you do so, anyone of you who supports Manzullo is an abortionist by proxy.</p>
<p>Does that make your Christmas merry?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments and clarification. It helps me to believe that there may be room for compromise and discussion. So often the replies to each other have been full of anger and hate. I sincerely appreciate your calm, logical reply.

While I would like to discuss more, there have been some posters at the RRStar who have reported having posters send them or drop letters off at their home. And while you no doubt would be fine, it makes this retired person a bit nervous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments and clarification. It helps me to believe that there may be room for compromise and discussion. So often the replies to each other have been full of anger and hate. I sincerely appreciate your calm, logical reply.</p>
<p>While I would like to discuss more, there have been some posters at the RRStar who have reported having posters send them or drop letters off at their home. And while you no doubt would be fine, it makes this retired person a bit nervous.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say conservatives are responsible for their fair share of abortions, since they do their best to limit access to contraceptives and responsible sex education. I also wonder how many fundamentalist Christians have &quot;murdered&quot; their own grandchildren by terrifying their daughters into getting an abortion rather than having to tell their Christian parents that they got pregnant outside of marriage and dishonoring their family? And preaching an abstinence-only viewpoint of sexual health is an idealistic joke.

Here are some concrete steps to reduce the number of abortions in the United States, effective today.

1. Tell your teenagers verbatim: &quot;Pulling out doesn&#039;t work.&quot; Too squeamish? Well now you&#039;re a mass murderer by association.

2. Your Christian daughter, the apple of your eye, the good girl who never ever would do bad things with a boy? Put her on the pill. Because dad, when you were my age you would&#039;ve been trying to get all up in her business. Even meek little Christian boys wanna get buck, they just bottle up the sexual tension until it explodes in a fiery inferno of lust.

3. If you send your teens to a private religious school, ask them if any of their classmates got pregnant and were expelled from that school, and if they tell you that has occurred, boycott that school until a new rule is in place. It sounds shamefully hypocritical, but I personally know that school administrators have done this. Seems like making people choose between having their baby or having a better education might lead to some abortions, no?

If you really believe that every fetus being aborted is a unique individual life that ought to be protected, you should have the moral courage to examine how fundamentalist culture encourages abortion. You can wash your hands and claim that the factors I&#039;ve listed are not causal, but in a battle where (as you believe) every single life counts and should for fought for, can you really stand with integrity if you do that?

Abortion is a distasteful and unnatural industry, but I find it ironic that it is the one commercial transaction that many fiscal and cultural conservatives want extremely regulated by the government. Please admit that you do not simply want to downsize the government, but rather you desire to sculpt it to cater to your own cultural background and personal inclinations. Don&#039;t be so dramatic and pretend that you&#039;re saving America from its own lack of self-control, you&#039;re trying to accrue power just like any faction. Get real, Teabaggers.

P.S. How is teabagging homoerotic? Pretty sure you can teabag your wife within the bounds of a God-fearing marriage. See: Freud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say conservatives are responsible for their fair share of abortions, since they do their best to limit access to contraceptives and responsible sex education. I also wonder how many fundamentalist Christians have &#8220;murdered&#8221; their own grandchildren by terrifying their daughters into getting an abortion rather than having to tell their Christian parents that they got pregnant outside of marriage and dishonoring their family? And preaching an abstinence-only viewpoint of sexual health is an idealistic joke.</p>
<p>Here are some concrete steps to reduce the number of abortions in the United States, effective today.</p>
<p>1. Tell your teenagers verbatim: &#8220;Pulling out doesn&#8217;t work.&#8221; Too squeamish? Well now you&#8217;re a mass murderer by association.</p>
<p>2. Your Christian daughter, the apple of your eye, the good girl who never ever would do bad things with a boy? Put her on the pill. Because dad, when you were my age you would&#8217;ve been trying to get all up in her business. Even meek little Christian boys wanna get buck, they just bottle up the sexual tension until it explodes in a fiery inferno of lust.</p>
<p>3. If you send your teens to a private religious school, ask them if any of their classmates got pregnant and were expelled from that school, and if they tell you that has occurred, boycott that school until a new rule is in place. It sounds shamefully hypocritical, but I personally know that school administrators have done this. Seems like making people choose between having their baby or having a better education might lead to some abortions, no?</p>
<p>If you really believe that every fetus being aborted is a unique individual life that ought to be protected, you should have the moral courage to examine how fundamentalist culture encourages abortion. You can wash your hands and claim that the factors I&#8217;ve listed are not causal, but in a battle where (as you believe) every single life counts and should for fought for, can you really stand with integrity if you do that?</p>
<p>Abortion is a distasteful and unnatural industry, but I find it ironic that it is the one commercial transaction that many fiscal and cultural conservatives want extremely regulated by the government. Please admit that you do not simply want to downsize the government, but rather you desire to sculpt it to cater to your own cultural background and personal inclinations. Don&#8217;t be so dramatic and pretend that you&#8217;re saving America from its own lack of self-control, you&#8217;re trying to accrue power just like any faction. Get real, Teabaggers.</p>
<p>P.S. How is teabagging homoerotic? Pretty sure you can teabag your wife within the bounds of a God-fearing marriage. See: Freud.</p>
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		<title>By: rockfordteaparty</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockfordteaparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Susan I certainly appreciate the concern however the concern is certainly misperception more than it is founded complaint. We do not oppose those things that are helping people. We do oppose those things that are wasteful, fraudulent, abusive of Taxpayers and the hard earned money they plunk down in the various forms of taxation that have been vitiated upon the American people. We also have legitimate disagreements on how these things can be best accomplished and unfortunately in today&#039;s current political climate disagreeing with your particular interpretation of how those things should be accomplished is equated with the very purposefully applied misperceptions that you articulate. 

Its why we have discovered many people think we are talking over each other instead of too each other. Its very easy to blame and throw out invective to score political points. Not saying you are doing so but it is norm in our win at all costs culture. We should be able to have legitimate differences of opinion, especially after having seen for decades what doesn&#039;t change and what doesn&#039;t work when trying the same strategies over and over to wipe out the social problems that plague us. Its also very much a reason why fiscal issues cannot be completely removed from social issues.

If you wanted a legitimate and reasonable discussion of these issues I would be more than happy to meet with you and have that discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Susan I certainly appreciate the concern however the concern is certainly misperception more than it is founded complaint. We do not oppose those things that are helping people. We do oppose those things that are wasteful, fraudulent, abusive of Taxpayers and the hard earned money they plunk down in the various forms of taxation that have been vitiated upon the American people. We also have legitimate disagreements on how these things can be best accomplished and unfortunately in today&#8217;s current political climate disagreeing with your particular interpretation of how those things should be accomplished is equated with the very purposefully applied misperceptions that you articulate. </p>
<p>Its why we have discovered many people think we are talking over each other instead of too each other. Its very easy to blame and throw out invective to score political points. Not saying you are doing so but it is norm in our win at all costs culture. We should be able to have legitimate differences of opinion, especially after having seen for decades what doesn&#8217;t change and what doesn&#8217;t work when trying the same strategies over and over to wipe out the social problems that plague us. Its also very much a reason why fiscal issues cannot be completely removed from social issues.</p>
<p>If you wanted a legitimate and reasonable discussion of these issues I would be more than happy to meet with you and have that discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally am opposed to abortion. But I also think life continues after birth. I am not trying to be offensive, I am trying to understand why the Tea Party members are so opposed to social programs that preserve life. For example medical programs, food programs. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally am opposed to abortion. But I also think life continues after birth. I am not trying to be offensive, I am trying to understand why the Tea Party members are so opposed to social programs that preserve life. For example medical programs, food programs. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-you ,David Hale. I pray that the Church will awaken and, not just sing a little louder while our freedoms disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you ,David Hale. I pray that the Church will awaken and, not just sing a little louder while our freedoms disappear.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you David Hale for writing this.  
Mr. Campbell who claims to be a minister has never defended the thousands of unborn children who have been murdered in Rockford.

The Tea Party clearly has a lot of good ideas.  The occupy folks have some good ideas also.  In the end it comes down to doing what is best for all people.

David Hale has always shown a willingness to listen and treat people with respect.  Mr. Campbell is a man who smears first and doesn&#039;t even ask questions later.

By the way; Dave (the Dave who responded to Susan), when you claim someone needs to proof read what they have written it is a good idea to capitalize the first word of your sentence, and the first letter in your own name- just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you David Hale for writing this.<br />
Mr. Campbell who claims to be a minister has never defended the thousands of unborn children who have been murdered in Rockford.</p>
<p>The Tea Party clearly has a lot of good ideas.  The occupy folks have some good ideas also.  In the end it comes down to doing what is best for all people.</p>
<p>David Hale has always shown a willingness to listen and treat people with respect.  Mr. Campbell is a man who smears first and doesn&#8217;t even ask questions later.</p>
<p>By the way; Dave (the Dave who responded to Susan), when you claim someone needs to proof read what they have written it is a good idea to capitalize the first word of your sentence, and the first letter in your own name- just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: rockfordteaparty</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockfordteaparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democrat Party is the party of Abortion. It is well known and indisputable. If the Democrat party had not been the champion of Abortion with the Likes of Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi in the lead a more reasonable response could be crafted through a national conversation on how to deal with unwanted pregnancy. However with the Democrats and left wing culture warriors in charge that won&#039;t be possible. children will continue to be murdered in the womb per Democrat Part Official Platform Policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrat Party is the party of Abortion. It is well known and indisputable. If the Democrat party had not been the champion of Abortion with the Likes of Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi in the lead a more reasonable response could be crafted through a national conversation on how to deal with unwanted pregnancy. However with the Democrats and left wing culture warriors in charge that won&#8217;t be possible. children will continue to be murdered in the womb per Democrat Part Official Platform Policy.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correct, susan. they must also express themselves sensibly. it wouldn&#039;t hurt to proofread either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correct, susan. they must also express themselves sensibly. it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to proofread either.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facts are missing, but anger isn&#039;t in this letter. Please tell me where it is Democrats single handedly causing 60 million children to be aborted.

If people want to be taken seriously, they need to express themselves with facts and in a manner that people can respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts are missing, but anger isn&#8217;t in this letter. Please tell me where it is Democrats single handedly causing 60 million children to be aborted.</p>
<p>If people want to be taken seriously, they need to express themselves with facts and in a manner that people can respect.</p>
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